How good is Amity University Noida for B.Tech in CSE and what about its other campuses?

What about its internships? Do companies like amazon come to take students for internships? What is its highest package? Is choosing mechatronics in manipal university jaipur over amity a better option because branch upgradation is possible after first year in manipal ?

Aabir Chatterjee, Second-year MBA (Marketing) Student at SIBM Pune

Originally Answered: Is Amity University good for engineering, and do they have good placements?

Your question has two separate entities. First, whether the Engineering course itself is good. And second, regarding placements. Being an alum, I should be able to give you a satisfactory answer.

But, before anything else, let me clarify, that Amity is in NO way, whatsoever a fake university! It is recognized under the UGC, and its degrees hold good stead! So please do not have any doubts regarding the University's credentials. It is really dis-heartening to read such a statement for my alma-mater!

Next, the engineering course, in my opinion is more theoretical, rather than being more application oriented. Saying that, classes are regular, exams are conducted in an orderly manner and the faculty is fairly decent, who would probably do a decent job of getting the engineering concepts in place. But, of course, it depends on how much YOU yourself are willing to invest in the subject matter. Case in point, my class mate from Amity ranked #1 in GATE and is currently studying in IISc.

As for placements, one word: decent. The definition of the term 'decent' here = getting a job with an avg. package, in a good company, at the end of four years.

Unless you count the elite IITs, NITs and a few other good engineering colleges (like BITS), the placement process across engineering colleges, in my opinion, is fairly standard except for a few outliers.

Having a decent enough GPA in Amity, would almost guarantee you a job in one of the IT companies (avg. package being around 3.5L). If you're lucky enough, you could probably end up in one of the few companies, which would be related to your engineering domain. (By the end of my tenure, I ended up with placement offers from Airtel and ITC Infotech.)

Final verdict: Considering the sample of other private universities (barring the likes of BITS) present across India, Amity's Engineering college is indeed, decent. Positives include, a fairly structured course, discipline across the campus, good infrastructure and the college is always, trying to improve. It has indeed come a long way in the last 10 years. As for the negatives, I'd say, lesser exposure to applications and the faculty could be better.

Tejas Munees S, Learning and giving it back.

Thanks for A2A.
Amity University is a university placed in sector 125, in Noida, UP.

Also the university claims to be the ranked 1st private university according to “Education Times” and also ranked 1st in terms of placements according to “Data-quest”. Its also UGC recognised.

Campus:
Amity University has main campuses in Noida, Lucknow, Jaipur, Gurgaon, Gwalior, Mumbai and Kolkata. However, only the Noida and Jaipur campus is presently listed by the University Grants Commission. University Grants Commission accepted degrees must therefore be officially awarded by the Noida or Jaipur campus.

Rankings:
The university received several rankings in the 2013 India Today college rankings. It was ranked India's #3 non-profit private university. Its engineering school was ranked first amongst India's emerging colleges. Its BBA program was ranked #2 in India. The School of Communication was ranked #5 amongst Mass Communication programs in India. The Fashion Design program was ranked seventh in India.

These were some student shared their realtime experience (Not my View and No Offence):

1)
“The day when I appeared for entrance exams-most students and parents aid-Dude u came to amity, definitely u hate studies. Nobody come here for studies.THOSE WHO HAVE GIVEN POSITIVE COMMENTS are trying to lure you to get admission.Amity PAY YOU MONEY IF YOU GET YOUR FRIEND AS A STUDENT TO AMITY.Such a cheap university.
Its director is fraud, people and head of the institute are fraud and what not.
If u join amity, it means-
You have too much extra money to WASTE
None Studies here and will let you to Study.
Such a big university has no money for projectors, lights, AC, nothing.Teachers of 2 out of 10 subjects are never there, others are on leave.If any teacher come on time, CHANGE MY NAME.”

2)
“Well, first of all I would like to warn you that if you want to study seriously , it's not very good university for you.
Its good for people who really want to enjoy their college life to the fullest or in terms of Amity students "FUN".
It has huge over priced restaurant and cafes. Best is to have cafeteria lunch as it is cheaper but may/may not be as tasty as it looks.
The way to earn good internals is to butter teachers somewhat and also perform in minors. A little preparation will take you miles in majors.
Placement is ok with almost all students getting placed. If you work hard you will get placed earlier that the rest and ATPC puts in full effort to get all students get placed.”

3)
“I joined Amity....and particularly I didn’t like it much...left it after one year...
Although Amity has everything to attract a student....Good rankings...placement records and brand recognition...but I particularly didn’t like the faculty..they were relatively young and not that serious...I don’t regret leaving amity....Although amity has all type of students..the studious serious ones and the fun frolic loving students....But its still a great place to learn many things….."

4)
“"A few red buildings" said one person. "I came here because i didn't crack the entrance exams for engineering or medicine" says another. There are many such opinions of young students (well not that young considering the fact that they have been preparing for the entrance exams for a year or more after 12th boards) who have a look on their face on the very first day of entering this university, with its crimson-colored buildings, convoluted infrastructure.etc.
However, after passing out last year.i.e.2012, I have come to the conclusion that it really does not matter how many negative reviews you read or over-advertised commercials you see on television. This university has its ups and downs like every other university/college in India. It boils down to the fact that every student has to find his/her way through in college. You have to scrounge for opportunities and literally push people back in order to secure your future.

My advice for freshers or 2nd year students
1) Don't screw your academics. Trust me, it may not be an indicator of a successful person but still it matters in a cut-throat competitive environment.
2) Be proactive. Participate in debates. Join a club, placement committee.etc. On campus or off-campus.
3 ) A few Teachers are a bit biased towards students who keep dogging them around and end up getting more marks in the internals. Keep a lookout for them. And don't screw your internals thinking i'll make it up in the externals out of 70 marks. Also maintain your attendance at 75%. It would be a utter waste not to give the paper because you got debarred.
4) Tips for students studying Biotechnology(as i was a student of the same) -
Don't think that the course becomes easy once you enter the 2nd year with Bio based subjects. It is equally hard across the semesters.
5) THE MOST IMP TIP - REGARDING PLACEMENTS - Please note that the college does not guarantee 100% placements. It may sound fanciful in a brochure you picked up on your way to the campus but the real scenario is quite different. A few companies will come to campus and it is absolutely imperative that you sit for these companies and grab your offer letter ASAP. Do not worry about the salary or work they would offer you. Most of the time it will be below your expectations. But nonetheless, you must try your luck.

A final word of advice. Don't worry if you could not crack IIT-JEE, CBSE-PMT, AIEEE.etc. and ended up at Amity. The real journey has just begun. I know students who are studying at IIM-A, MIT after passing out of Amity. It is a matter of perspective. Take it as learning experience and work hard. Party harder!”

I think these reviews and perspective from students who have studied and experienced there will give you a better insight and answers all your questions. If there is anything particular you want to ask, please do.
Hope these served your question.

Heena, studied CS in amity

expect 3-7 lakhs

Its placements are average , but off late it is working hard to provide you some real good placements. Again I feel since it charges high fees, it spends considerable amount on placement. I easily got 3 offer letter after graduating from CS amity. Though I have to admit faculty is bad. You will have to learn programming out side your classes. Also attendance is strict.

start working in your basics from 1st year itself. Learn one programming language atleast and data structures. When I was living in a pg, I gave a try to ducat and NIIT, but they were really pathetic. I came across these classes held in Sector 44, 1 km to amity. These are run by himanshu sir in name of Dexter Coding Labs . I can assure you the best job after taking courses from him. Lot of amity students learn languages from him and have gone on to be success. You will be amazed to discover the power of programming. You have free demo classes there, so you might want to check out these cool classes. He forces you develop thinking, logical ability. One topic recursion , i used to be afraid, but now love it. thanks to Himanshu sir. We also did lot of interview preparation and practical projects which helped me bag dream job and thanks to amity for calling companies.

Valiullah Hashmi, Biotechnology, Batch of 2012

Well firstly,it depends on how you define "smart". The description varies from person to person. If by smart you mean the ability to solve complex equations and calculus, then its definitely true in the case of IITians (who i respect for their hardwork). Otherwise i would attach a tag of smart to someone who has common sense and a good control over his brain and tongue. Probably a person with a keen sense of observation.

Now students from Amity have gone to study at University of California, MIT, IIM-A.etc. It depends on how much effort you put in college despite certain setbacks which you inevitably face by not graduating from a "top-tier" institution.

International placements scene - Since i was in the placement cell, we did have one company coming in from Japan, but it was conducting the entrance exam on a national level, not college specific. A good amount of companies had come for the mechanical students as far as i know with very limited seats and high level of competition. You also need to have the right contacts to move your way through the placement process.

Samanvay Kumar, Spent 4 years at Amity (failing and learning all time)

Okay, let me tell you straight.
FORGET ABOUT GROUP DISCUSSIONS
They are no longer included in the recruitment process.

First you need to clear the General Aptitude Round.
For this you need to be able to solve quant, logical reasoning and verbal questions quickly and accurately. If you have been preparing for GRE/CAT, you are good to go. Else grab RS Aggarwal and start solving.

Next is the technical interview
Study C++, Java, Data Structures, Algorithms, Operating Systems, Networking and DBMS. It seems like a huge task, but you have to be able to answer basic and fundamental questions related to these concepts.

Next is HR interview
Cakewalk... just tell the employers what they wish to hear
P.S.
If you have a sub-6 CGPA, don't have high hopes from Amity, get into Android/iOS development and join a path-breaking start-up.

Ronit Ladkani, done 1st year B.Tech at Amity university M.P., took admission on 4th sept.

Do not see the packages.
Yes the 24lacs pa is true bt it only arrived once at there door.
Now both are almost similar in ptoviding education. You will get quality education.
I am an amitian studying in amity gwl. And i have friends studyng in amity noida and CU both.
I am gonna tell you only the things i know abt the two.
Now if you see Amity noida-its a very very famous university. In my view it has a good standard, good education they provide, facilities best but the fees is 250000 around for btec and also some scholorship you cn get if percentage is good. The crowd there is good, RICH bt they are like normal in studies, many are not studious type. You would get to see people smoking, chilling, dring bears.
Campus is awesome, well constructed red bricks all around, ccd and some more cafe types are inside the campus.
The main irritating thing will be you will for sure have subjects like french/german, Also behavioural science, and english for 8 consecutive sems And also evs for 1st year. And the timing will be 9.15 to 5.10 monday to friday. Attendence is 75% must in all subjects and then 1mark/5% more after 75%. That means 5 marks are for attndence. This attndnce creates prob. In subjects like french, behavioural sc. , english, and evs bcoz they either 1ce a week or twice.
I am in amity gwl. N my 1 frnd is in amity noida so i can say this that strictness level differs. Amity gwl. Is more strict dn amity noida as amity gwl. Is new. Amity different universities have different fee structure.

About CU i dont know much. I know abt campus dt is good. White bricks. Max. Students are punjabis. Fee structure is around 110000per annum and afyer this some scholorship you can also get. University is near mohali and far from chandigarh. Strictness is very high like for ex.(my frnd told me) no one can stay in hostel after classes strt evn if you aren't well. You have to get permisions from authorities. And also guards rome around in campus and someone bunks or misbehave they would be punished. If any1 bunks or remain on hostel they hv to pay some amount as penalty.

Education is very good in both universities. Facilities are also good.
Cochings are near to amity noida bt if considered CU, they are very far frm university.
Minimum % to tk adm. is 60% in both universities bt if you hv source or visit some authorities in universities

Prithvi raj Singh, computer science engineer from amity noida, TOW captian ASET

Ill keep it short and too the point.

Computer science at amity university is more focused on the theoretical part however you will have plenty of opportunity to go ahead and implement your learnings. Most colleges do not focus much on practical knowledge but again this is in no way stopping you from going ahead and practicing on your own (no spoon feeding). Learn a new language of your interest once you grasp the basics.

After this lets come to the internship part, they are decent enough. I did my internship in AT&T which is a pretty good organization to go ahead and work for even for a short duration. Most students get internships on their own so you can go for Amazon however it does not come for internship recruitment.

Placements are good in comparison to a lot of private and other colleges. In my batch the maximum package went for 8.5 LPA but again if you perform well in your internship that same company might offer you a package much more(13LPA + in a friends case), so it all comes down to what you did different in those 4 years of your college which later makes it much simple to get into a company you want while others are struggling with testing and support jobs.

Work hard, learn something new, become an expert (its not at all difficult you've got 4 years) you'll find much much better companies than you can imagine.

Abhishek Kumar Pandey

Amity is like any other private fraud engineering college in India. Since this college does not provide the following facilities to its students, hence it cannot be judged as a good engineering college.

5 MBPS per hosteler internet speed in the college hostel and
Non-compulsory attendance rule

Academics: The college teaches bullshit things to the students so that the students do not get skilled, so that they are shifted as clerks in the services based companies owned by the colleges owners.

Critical analysis of syllabus:

# - Not related to computer engineering. Hence, useless.

## - It is a skill it cannot be imparted by any other human. The directions available at internet is sufficient to get direction from to master this particular skill. It takes about 2000 hours of hard work to get comfortable with any skill. Nothing can be taught in 10 hours by any human.

### - Better video tutorials from the innovators/inventors of the subject are available.

FIRST SEMESTER

Sociology & Elements of Indian History for Engineers #

Law for Engineers #

Applied Mathematics – I (Linear Algebra & Multivariable Calculus) #

Applied Physics - I #

Environmental Studies #

Applied Physics Lab - I #

Engineering Mechanics #

Introduction to Computers & Programming in C ##

Engineering Mechanics Lab #

Elements of Mechanical Engineering Lab #

Introduction to Computers & Programming in C Lab ##

English – I #

Behavioural Sciences – I #

Language / Foreign Language – I / Term paper #

SECOND SEMESTER

Economics for Engineers #

Cyber & Information Security #

Biology for Engineers #

Applied Mathematics – II (Differential Equations and Complex Analysis) #

Applied Physics – II #

Applied Chemistry #

Applied Physics Lab - II #

Applied Chemistry Lab #

Basic Electrical Engineering #

Basic Electrical Engineering Lab #

Engineering Graphics Lab #

English - II #

Behavioural Science – II #

Language / Foreign Language - II / Term paper #

THIRD SEMESTER

Numerical Methods & Optimization #

Material Science #

Basic Electronics Engineering #

Object Oriented Programming Using C++ ##

Basic Electronics Engineering Lab #

Object Oriented Programming Using C++ Lab ##

Database Management Systems ###

Operating System ###

Database Management Systems Lab ##

UNIX Programming Lab - I ##

Communication Skills - I ##

Behavioural Science - III #

Language/ Foreign Language - III/ Term paper #

FOURTH SEMESTER

Probability & Statistics #

Basic Simulation Lab #

Data Structures using C ###

Java Programming ##

Computer Graphics #

Theory of Computation ###

Data Structures Using C Lab ##

Java Programming Lab ##

Computer Graphics Lab #

Communication Skills - II ##

Behavioural Science – IV #

Language / Foreign Language - IV / Term paper #

FIFTH SEMESTER

Discrete Mathematics ###

Computer Organization & Architecture ###

Software Engineering #

Data Communication & Computer Networks ###

Information Storage & Management (EMC²) #

Computer Organization & Architecture Lab ###

Software Engineering Lab ##

Data Communication & Computer Networks Lab #

Communication Skills – III ##

Behavioural Science – V #

Language / Foreign Language - V / Term paper #

SIXTH SEMESTER

Fuzzy Mathematics #

Analysis & Design of Algorithm ###

Compiler Construction #

Cloud infrastructure Services ##

Analysis & Design of Algorithm Lab ##

Compiler Construction Lab #

Principal of Programming Language #

E - Commerce & ERP #

Advanced Java Programming ##

Programming in The Official Microsoft ASP.NET Site ##

Web Technology ###

Advanced Java Programming Lab ##

Programming in The Official Microsoft ASP.NET Site Lab ##

Web Technology Lab ##

Communication Skills - IV ##

Behavioural Science - VI #

Language / Foreign Language - VI / Term paper #

SEVENTH SEMESTER

Artificial Intelligence ###

Microprocessors ###

Digital Image Processing & Computer Vision #

Advanced Networking ##

Software Testing & Quality Assurance ##

Artificial Intelligence Lab #

Microprocessors Lab #

Digital Image Processing & Computer Vision Lab #

Advanced Networking Lab #

Software Testing & Quality Assurance Lab #

Graph Theory & Applications ###

Software Design ##

Mobile Computing ###

Construction Management & Quantity Surveying #

Pre-stressed concrete #

Building maintenance and repairs #

Lean Management #

Software Project Planning and Management #

Supply Chain Management – Planning #

Geographic Data Analysis & Application #

Environnemental Impact Assessment & Audit #

Introduction to Web Technologies ###

Information Storage and Management Techniques ###

Enterprise Resource Planning #

Soft Computing Techniques #

Information Theory & Coding ##

Fundamentals of IC Technology #

Fundamentals of Transducers and applications #

Digital Systems and Microprocessors #

Fundamentals of Robotics ###

Embedded Systems #

Biometrics #

Micro Electro Mechanical Systems #

Fundamentals of Data Acquisition and Telemetry #

Basics of Utilization of Electrical Energy #

Fundamentals of Power Plant Instrumentation #

Fundamentals of Measurement & Measuring Instruments #

Object Oriented Programming using Java ###

Basics of Operating Systems ###

DBMS Concepts ###

Principles of Software Engineering ###

Fundamentals of Data Warehousing and Data Mining ###

AUBSI Courses #

Communication Skill – V ##

Behavioural Science – VII #

Language / Foreign Language - VIII / Term paper #

EIGHTH SEMESTER

System C ###

Laser Fundamentals & Applications #

Mobile Communications ###

Video Processing #

Mixed Signal Design #

Basics of Intelligent Instrumentation #

Verilog Programming #

Fundamentals of Nanotechnology #

Quality Control & Quality Assurance #

Risk & Value Management #

Environmental Pollution Control Engineering #

Software Testing ##

Multimedia Technologies #

Introduction to Cloud Computing ###

Basics of Electrical Machines #

Fundamentals of Power Electronics #

Artificial Intelligence ###

Cloud Infrastructure Services ##

Programming in The Official Microsoft ASP.NET Site ##

Principles of Software Design ##

Transducers, Sensors & Display Systems #

Communication Skills - VI ##

Behavioural Science - VIII #

Language / Foreign Language - VIII / Term paper #

College life depends on the following factors

Non-compulsory attendance rule.
Meaningfulness of the syllabus taught to the students.
Quality peers.
Efficient administrative staff
Distance of the college from a spot where more than 10 eateries are located.

The college does not fulfills any of the above mentioned things. Hence should not be considered a good engineering college.

Placement:

This college does not produce any engineers, and only shifting of the graduates as clerks happen from this college. Hence it should not be considered a good engineering college.

Nidhi Kothiyal, Mechanical Engineer

Amity University Noida is considered the best among all Amity(s) in India for its infrastructure , faculty and other things .
But as far as placements are concerned students from all other Amities (amity jaipur ,gwalior & other amity's) are assembled at Noida only and each one has EQUAL OPPORTUNITY regarding the placement thing.

p.s : I'am a final year student of B.Tech (Mechanical and Automation) Amity (Noida)

Aanjan Midha, Ex-Amitian

Go to the official placements page of Amity: amity.edu .
Navigate to Recruitment Results--> Batch 2013, see all the companies that visited Amity in 2013 and almost all the CS students were placed.

Ashish Aryan

Coming straight to your questions ( please read my other answers about Amity for different concerns) The computer science department of Amity Noida is very good and doing really very well. Good faculties coupled with great infrastructure and facilities, although Director of computer science department is really very rude (one & only Sikh with such a bad attitude and behaviour) but I don't think anyone really bothers him and hopefully he must have been replaced by someone else.

Now coming to placements & internship, yes you'll get good opportunities for computer science branch. Amity Noida is always better in terms of placements as compared to any other private university or institution in the country, it's also having DELL & HCL's country headquarters just besides it's campus ( You'll be surprised to know that the whole land is actually leased by Amity where the companies are located) and many more IT companies are located just in neighbourhood.

Good luck & feel free to ask if you need any extra help or information.

Ankit Sawhney

From my experience I can tell you that apart from top engineering institutes, the package remains nearly same in all colleges (3-4) lakhs per annum.

But few things you must consider while selecting a college:

- Brand name of the college
- Fees
- Dont just see how many students were placed and where, but also try to confirm how many got their joining dates. Telling this point as I have seen many companies might select candidates but later decides to postpone joining by a year or totally cancel it
- Backup plan. Its not directly related, but if the above point comes true for anyone (I hope no one experience this) but if it happens then you should have multiple off-campus interviews and higher study option

Best of Luck!!!

Vaibhav Mehta, b.tech from Amity University, Noida

I've done B.tech in AEROSPACE from AMITY UNIVERSITY, NOIDA so I think I'm the best person to answer this question. On an average you will get a package of around 3-3.5 lakhs per annum if you are an average student.

But I think to choose Amity for B.tech you must think of the following points.

Your parent's should have at least 15 lakh ruppees for your studies
You are looking for a Master's after

I will not suggest you to go for Amity instead do some other course from DU or any other university, dropping a year is again an option but only if you are dedicated and motivated enough

Tanu Agarwal, Pursued M.TECH from Amity University

The most fascinating thing about Amity University is that it ensures placements to all of its students.

The noida campus had around 400 students in CSE for 2015 batch and each n every one of them was placed by the end of the session. What else does a B. TECH student requires.

Vineet Kamath

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I really can't say about this, The little bit of research i did for this university says, it a good college in India. Comes in top 100. So sure it may be good. But before taking admissions and if you have really good grades, I suggest you to check for past history of the college, Which companies have come for campus recruitment in the last 3 or 4 years, Do they impress you...
Check the staff and their qualifications and read about the comments given by student, probably on FB or see what you can generally find on Google. Most students would give a negative feedback, but check their reason.

Anonymous

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Well B.Tech CSE is one of the better courses at Amity University, Noida. I wont advice you to take up a course at any campus other than Noida, as placement drive for all campuses is held at Noida, and companies come round the year. Amity is average in terms of academics, and above average in terms of placement. Placement rate is high (nearly 90%) and but average package is 3.6 lpa You can see the details of placements of every year at Amity Placement . Its not an advertisement page. Rather, we students get the placement updates(companies coming, students placed etc) from there itself. Regarding the internship between 6th and 7th sem, you generally have to arrange one on your own. But 2 or 3 companies do come and this year, one of my friends got selected for internship at Microsoft. Needless to say, he is the topper of our batch. And yes, most of the things shown in Amity's TV advertisement are hoax. But not all. Amitians have recently filed one of the highest no of patents compared to other colleges in India. Also QS world university rankings(one of the most reputed one) has listed Amity in one of the top 300 universities in Asia, where only 17 Indian universities made the cut.Also, here you get a good exposure, as Amity offers almost every course, Engg, Mgmt, Law, Arch, Arts, and you get to get in touch and interact with a variety of people.

But again, reputation is where Amity lags behind.

So to conclude, if you get a stream of your choice in Manipal, then you should go for it, I'm not sure of Jaipur campus though :P

PS: Changing your stream after 1 year is very tough as you have be among the toppers. Topping your entire Deptt. is much harder than topping your class in grade XII, especially if you haven't lived in a hostel before.

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Hello Friend,I strongly castigate your question .I think you are pre-decided to join the University and you are expecting a response in favor of Amity University (if not please ignore).
Asking for Amity University means you failed to dig in JEE Mains but still no problem bro. Study anywhere, every college is good .The only difference between colleges is their students . If you will work hard regularly with passion and commitment you can get job anywhere.
(please don't prioritize your course selection by fatty salary.Otherwise you will end up cursing yourself).
In Addition Few Tips For CSE -
Get Strong hold in Mathematics
e.g Calculus.....and so on.
In Computer focus on Data structures and algorithms

Highest pay depends on your skill.If you got it , even "google" would hire from Amity.
These college will not help you with your Internships.
I answered what you need , but not what you want.
forgive me if you got hurt from my answer.

Ankit Goel

Manipal Institute of Technology does not offer international placements. But it offers international internships via some student exchange program.

Also lot of students get into some of the best US colleges for higher education - Stanford, CMU etc. It is not easy to crack admissions into these universities but if you are dedicated and stay focused you can surely qualify. My advice - start preparing early. These universities look out for variety and excellence in your resume - high GPA, high GRE score, recommendations from known professors, sports, projects, internships, contribution to open source.

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Originally Answered: Is Amity University good for engineering, and do they have good placements?

Your question has two separate entities. First, whether the Engineering course itself is good. And second, regarding placements. Being an alum, I should be able to give you a satisfactory answer.

As for placements, one word: decent. The definition of the term 'decent' here = getting a job with an avg. package, in a good company, at the end of four years.

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